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R_Frost · Oct 10, 2009, 11:00 PM // 23:00

simple fix, revert the may 7th update where the z-combat quests became repeatable. if anet is dumb enough to put in something like this that ends up getting abused, they shouldnt be surprised when it happens. people shouldnt even be considered for a temp banning or whatever anet decides to do after allowing this to go on for 4 months or more when they could of fixed this along time ago.

Chocobo1 · Oct 10, 2009, 11:22 PM // 23:22

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Originally Posted by tehlemming

If you're playing, why wouldn't you want to maximize the amount of commander points/keys you're getting? They're doing it at least twice as fast as you, per account.

Thats the brilliance of it, It's not 2x as fast because they leave within 30 seconds because they know I'm not going to leave.

To the War + 3 healer guy saying he wins all his matchs, Congrats, but I've fought similar people with your idea to grief if they don't go along with RR and it never works (in my experience).

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Originally Posted by ShadowSpawnX

No we thank you for making rr day so special. Whenever I come across what we call a "rambo red" its great fun to proceed to crush the life out of them. I just found out about the rr day late yesterday, but whenever you rambo reds pop up its good times.

Good, I'm glad you actually play the game legit. But it slows down your key rate so :S.

Yawgmoth · Oct 10, 2009, 11:46 PM // 23:46

What will Anet do - they will just remove the broken format altogether. It should be gone by now but they're slow as usual.

Zahr Dalsk · Oct 10, 2009, 11:50 PM // 23:50

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Originally Posted by R_Frost

simple fix, revert the may 7th update where the z-combat quests became repeatable

They've always been repeatable, so to speak; the only difference is that now you only need to change districts.

Prior to that it was a quick F12->C->Delete Character->Make new character->Take quest again.

Now it's simply marginally faster, and also allows the retarded people (the ones who're afraid of deleting a PvP character) to repeat them.

Karate Jesus · Oct 10, 2009, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

They've always been repeatable, so to speak; the only difference is that now you only need to change districts.

Prior to that it was a quick F12->C->Delete Character->Make new character->Take quest again.

Now it's simply marginally faster, and also allows the retarded people (the ones who're afraid of deleting a PvP character) to repeat them.

Yea, they'd have to limit it to once per account, which wouldn't work.

Either way, it doesn't matter. They'll probably remove HB before the next RR day anyway.

kupp · Oct 11, 2009, 12:00 AM // 00:00

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Thats the brilliance of it, It's not 2x as fast because they leave within 30 seconds because they know I'm not going to leave.

To the War + 3 healer guy saying he wins all his matchs, Congrats, but I've fought similar people with your idea to grief if they don't go along with RR and it never works (in my experience).

Hold on, I never said I won every match, but I simply won't allow people to do what they want when they're not following the rules set by the community. I'd understand if all they'd want to do is to play the game legit but that's why those people will rank up and start fighting others like him instead of hanging around in the RR'ers ranks.

That 3 healers team is to make sure they won't be able to do just that. Out of the 6 people I caught that just didn't feel like resigning, only one beat me and the other 5 either lost by legit gameplay or resigned themselves when they realized they were actually gonna have to battle me to the end. Kind of like stopping a bully on a kindergarden.

wilderness · Oct 11, 2009, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Where exactly did I say I have a problem with people acquiring commander?

Learn to read, please.

It was the process, not the goal. Hiding in the open is tricky, don't worry!

Chocobo1 · Oct 11, 2009, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by kupp

Hold on, I never said I won every match, but I simply won't allow people to do what they want when they're not following the rules set by the community. I'd understand if all they'd want to do is to play the game legit but that's why those people will rank up and start fighting others like him instead of hanging around in the RR'ers ranks.

That 3 healers team is to make sure they won't be able to do just that. Out of the 6 people I caught that just didn't feel like resigning, only one beat me and the other 5 either lost by legit gameplay or resigned themselves when they realized they were actually gonna have to battle me to the end. Kind of like stopping a bully on a kindergarden.

Not following the rules set by the community? Theres a reason the community doesn't get to make rules, RR is a perfect example. It's pretty much free Zkeys and Zcoins for no effort. How about we get other parts of GW to set there own rules ae? Lets go over to the UWSC'ers and give them mod powers, I bet that would improve the game.

And yeah, people who don't RR are exactly like bullys at kindergarden. Grrr how dare they play the game when I'M trying to abuse the system!

kupp · Oct 11, 2009, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Not following the rules set by the community? Theres a reason the community doesn't get to make rules, RR is a perfect example. It's pretty much free Zkeys and Zcoins for no effort. How about we get other parts of GW to set there own rules ae? Lets go over to the UWSC'ers and give them mod powers, I bet that would improve the game.

And yeah, people who don't RR are exactly like bullys at kindergarden. Grrr how dare they play the game when I'M trying to abuse the system!

Don't go overboard will ya? I know that using that term was risky but they knew that everyone in there was there for the free zkeys and they were following the RR rule, and knowing that they basically said 'f-you, I won't resign so you'll leave', bluffing imo. And I didn't let them, evidenced by the guys I either rolled or willingly resigned when they realized I wasn't going to. If people are getting matched up against RR'ers odds are they're RR'ers themselves that just don't feel like resigning anymore. For the 3rd time, RR'ers and PvP'ers are naturally seperated from each other.

Premium Unleaded · Oct 11, 2009, 12:53 AM // 00:53

So I did about 2 hours of this rr'ing yesterday and faced about 10 reds who didn't resign. 9 of them refused to and I proceeded to roll them easily enough (lol, half of them were running discord trios) - a few even raged at me when the match finished and threw insults at me. The fact that I was torrenting some TV shows at the same time just says plenty about their (lack of) ability to back up their chioce, frankly.
The last one I lost. Well, he asked me nicely to fight before the match started since he wanted to test some build out, so of course I obliged

oh yeah, we realised that we were idling in the same vent channel about a minute into the game since I just finished infusing for his HA team ~1 hour ago, so lol.

They really need to delete the joke that is HB, but until then, no reason not to jump on the gravytrain

I always come prepared to actually play the match anyway, but honestly, what is the actual point of doing it properly? It's a complete digression in what it is compared to what this game's PvP is about.

Karate Jesus · Oct 11, 2009, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by Premium Unleaded

So I did about 2 hours of this rr'ing yesterday and faced about 10 reds who didn't resign. 9 of them refused to and I proceeded to roll them easily enough (lol, half of them were running discord trios) - a few even raged at me when the match finished and threw insults at me. The fact that I was torrenting some TV shows at the same time just says plenty about their (lack of) ability to back up their chioce, frankly.
The last one I lost. Well, he asked me nicely to fight before the match started since he wanted to test some build out, so of course I obliged

oh yeah, we realised that we were idling in the same vent channel about a minute into the game since I just finished infusing for his HA team ~1 hour ago, so lol.

They really need to delete the joke that is HB, but until then, no reason not to jump on the gravytrain

I always come prepared to actually play the match anyway, but honestly, what is the actual point of doing it properly? It's a complete digression in what it is compared to what this game's PvP is about.

That's pretty much how every RR day is. Most people who are red will resign, but once you get too low in the ranks or too close to the middle you get a bunch of HB noobs who wont resign.

The good news is that it is TONS of fun to ram through terrible HB teams running stuff like discordway, RoJway, and lolspike builds that can't kill 1 hero.

My favorite part is when they have no idea what splitting is....or capping for that matter.

EDIT: Oh, and you're right. They should definitely delete it. I should not be able to gain two PvP title ranks in just 1 week (w/o ever having done it before).

Winstar · Oct 11, 2009, 01:12 AM // 01:12

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Thats the brilliance of it, It's not 2x as fast because they leave within 30 seconds because they know I'm not going to leave.

If you never resign and win 100% of the time, then your rating should be high enough so that you aren't playing people who want to RR and actually want to seriously play. At which point you have to be playing full matches. The whole thing only works - or did - until you tanked yourself low enough. Somehow i'm doubting that this is as efficient if you can't keep your rating down. But maybe its spread further across the ladder now delaying the time at which you will run into this.

Many people also enjoy beating the people who refuse to resign because anyone who is sitting at r 968 and insists on playing is likely pretty god awful.

Taddayo Kun · Oct 11, 2009, 01:21 AM // 01:21

Along the same lines as most others really. HB is being removed, and it's hb's design that made rr possible, since there is no dishonour for leaving there is no penalty stopping this from being thought up. Not to mention that the idea of red resign would (and has) be laughed at in any other pvp format. Today after rr finished people tried to transfer the concept over to TA. Needless to say, it didn't work.

Nobody has cared about HB for a long time and it's taken this long for anet to do anything about it. It has even taken the throwing of tournement matches in a similar manner and abusing of z combat (which anet made repeatable on purpose) to make them realise they have a dead format that needs changing.

HB will be dead soon, replaced with something new. I cannot help but think rr at least played a small part in this. So hooray for RR day for finally making the live team pay attention!

One more thing, the economy is not ruined. Since the absence of the XTH zkeys have risen in price, and after what is most likely the final rr day, they ae back to the price they were before anet killed XTH in a failed attempt to make it more user friendly.

For those of us who work on the zaishen title, zkeys lowering in price make the title slightly less ridiculous. Down from 100million worth of keys to a 'mere' 80 million.

Jugalo Dano · Oct 11, 2009, 01:29 AM // 01:29

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Originally Posted by ]HM[ Sabre Wolf

2.) The "Rouge Reds" are nothing more then people that are actually playing the game... so what is the problem with that? Ya it stinks they are not going with the RR idea... but you can't be mad at them for actually playing the game like its suppose to be played.

I don't see why people are mad about people who actually wanna play either, you can't force someone to do something they don't wanna. Sure, I resigned when I was red, but if I was blue and the red player didn't want to quit, I played them the best I could with the weak build I set up, and still won more matches then I lost.

Frankly, sitting there and quitting over and over is boring and when someone wants to play it's a nice change of pace.

Taddayo Kun · Oct 11, 2009, 02:41 AM // 02:41

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Originally Posted by Jugalo Dano

I don't see why people are mad about people who actually wanna play either, you can't force someone to do something they don't wanna. Sure, I resigned when I was red, but if I was blue and the red player didn't want to quit, I played them the best I could with the weak build I set up, and still won more matches then I lost.

Frankly, sitting there and quitting over and over is boring and when someone wants to play it's a nice change of pace.

I couldn't agree more, red resign is a player invented thing, people were getting so annoyed and were actually threatening to report each other! reporting someone for not cheating is a concept which gave me great amusement.

Trader of Secrets · Oct 11, 2009, 09:04 AM // 09:04

Think they gonna penalize anybody for this? How will they ever do this and hunt down all the people. I know a bunch that do this.

Apok Omen · Oct 11, 2009, 09:36 AM // 09:36

Rediculous title/faction/zcoin farm for an even more rediculous PvP format...

Of course Anet ain't gonna do a thing to stop it except nuke HB altogether. That's the only place RR shines and since they are obliterating it, they are letting people farm the title for the time being. And who cares about the amount of zcoins and faction they get? It's a very small amount, so small that not even the RR-ers care about it.

Quit thinking that Anet is actually gonna step in to nerf RR, because there is no point to nerfing it.

Rodeus · Oct 11, 2009, 10:58 AM // 10:58

Dishonorable says hi...

killerbot3009 · Oct 11, 2009, 11:01 AM // 11:01

when i am doing the HB zquest, i just refuse to resign when i am red, which mainly ends up in me winning all the games lol, but then i just get flammed at by pve nabs, just on the last HB zcombat, i managed to fill up my ignore list. getting kinda annoyed now.

harpharp · Oct 11, 2009, 11:22 AM // 11:22

hmm is it just me, or does everyone fail to see the positive part of this?

HB is now popular! on any rr day you will "see" a lot of happy faces! this is one thing where the community gets together! in fact some players decided to actually play even tho they are new to it judging from their builds but they were even sporting abt it when they lose! so yea, rr actually gets more players to play HB.